Thursday, August 9, 2007

The SEC -- King of Conferences? (updated)

A lot of us SEC fans like to think that the SEC is the King of Football conferences, and perhaps we are. But history may spread a bit of doubt upon that.

As of 2005-06, this is what the SEC vs. The World looked like:

Southeastern Conference vs. Division I-A Conferences






Conference Games W L T %
Sun Belt 191 178 9 4 94.20%
Western Athletic 103 91 10 2 89.30%
Mid-American 75 58 16 1 78.00%
Mountain West 155 109 42 4 71.60%
Conference USA 1181 758 374 49 66.30%
Big East 172 103 59 10 62.80%
Pac-10 108 63 38 7 61.60%
Atlantic Coast 1719 893 743 83 54.40%
Big 12 635 310 301 24 50.70%
I-A Independents 97 46 47 4 49.50%
Big Ten 184 86 91 7 48.60%

This is not so bad. The only conference we don't have winning record against is the Big Ten, and Independents and we are very nearly even with both. So just for comparison, let's look at the same thing from the standpoint of the Big Ten:

Big Ten Conference vs. Division I-A Conferences






Conference Games W L T %
Sun Belt 14 14 0 0 100.00%
Mid-American 253 215 34 4 85.80%
Conference USA 96 74 19 3 78.60%
Western Athletic 44 33 11 0 75.00%
Big East 490 324 147 19 68.10%
Mountain West 101 66 30 5 67.80%
Atlantic Coast 277 174 98 5 63.70%
Big 12 538 309 208 21 59.40%
Pac-10 528 265 250 13 51.40%
Southeastern 185 91 87 7 51.10%
I-A Independents 502 211 266 25 44.50%

I suppose that's pretty much what we would expect. It's interesting to note that although the SEC has a loosing record to the independents, it is a better record than the Big 10's. Interestingly enough, taking all wins and all games into account, the Big 10 and SEC have an identical 58% winning percentage overall against others.

Since there has been much talk about the SEC vs. the Pac-10, we might as well look at their table, also:

Pacific-10 Conference vs. Division I-A Conferences






Conference Games W L T %
Mid-American 11 10 1 0 90.90%
Sun Belt 14 12 2 0 85.70%
Western Athletic 711 564 130 17 80.50%
Mountain West 579 390 175 14 68.60%
Conference USA 191 125 59 7 67.30%
Atlantic Coast 81 43 37 1 53.70%
Big East 91 46 45 0 50.50%
Big Ten 528 250 265 13 48.60%
Big 12 386 163 210 13 43.90%
I-A Independents 168 66 91 11 42.60%
Southeastern 108 38 63 7 38.40%

Hmmm. Not quite cricket, now is it?

UPDATE:

A table for the Big 12 by special request:

Big 12 Conference vs. Division I-A Conferences






Conference Games W L T %
Sun Belt 119 110 9 0 92.40%
Western Athletic 136 111 23 2 82.40%
Mid-American 60 47 13 0 78.30%
Mountain West 840 535 270 35 65.80%
Conference USA 1062 622 389 51 61.00%
Pac-10 388 212 163 13 56.30%
Big East 138 66 65 7 50.40%
Southeastern 635 301 310 24 49.30%
Atlantic Coast 234 111 123 0 47.40%
I-A Independents 101 46 53 2 46.50%
Big Ten 538 208 309 21 40.60%

4 comments:

David said...

If you want an exhaustive (and perhaps exhausting) look at why the SEC is the best conference right now, I compiled a bunch of stats on inter-conference won/loss records in three different categories and found that the SEC is the best conference by a large margin. The categories were games versus BCS conference teams or Notre Dame in the previous year (2006), performance against out of conference games versus top 10 teams since 2002, and performance in BCS bowl games. Together, these categories cover a lot of ground and compensate for the shortcomings of the others.

The key is not just looking at wins and losses, because a loss by Vandy to Michigan isn't the same as a loss by Tennessee to Wisconsin. Rather, looking at who was in the game is just as important, and I included that in my study of the topic.

The content of all posts, with all accompanying tables of game stats, can be found here: http://year2.wordpress.com/conference-comparison/

BestofSEC said...

David:

Thanks for that. I can't wait to look at your work

Obviously, I didn't intend for this to be an exhaustive effort, just a quick look to see if such an assumption was rendered automatically invalid by the inter-conference W/L percentages. Obviously, it isn't, although the SEC and the Big 10 seem more competitive at a quick glance than a detailed examination like yours would tell.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. You have a great blog, I enjoy reading it.

LeftLeaningLady said...

Nicely done! I had a rambling, irrational post recently about this issue. I will do a more coherent one and link to this table. I will also print this for bar discussion. You don't happen to have one of these for the Big 12, do you?

BestofSEC said...

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. I will post it up there as an addendum.